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In favor in principle, as I will try to exipaln. Both the liaison' and GA/OLA, and me included of course, are responsible with the present problems surrounding this. GA is not effectively and clearly' dealing with this situation. The liaison' is not effectively and clearly' dealing with the situation. We, must resolve it .and ending it is clearly, imo, the logical step. End it clearly and decisively, then, if it is consensus, rebuild it correctly. Or I should say better. Movement development is reiterative', you change, fix, experiment, learn, modify as needed. Warning, Warning, Warning. As seriously as I can get your attention, this kind of break' with Principles and Solidarity, can, and usually does become a cancer' in the movement. I was SDS, Students for a Democratic Society, anti war group in the late 60 s, that also used participatory democracy. We were able to learn it slowly, but for the present Occupy, especially Los Angeles, you/we are hitting the ground runnning, repairing a jet while its flying. BUT we MUST adhere and take and OATH to your solidarity with your principles. Or risk the failure and fragmentation of our movement. Please read your first two principles.1. Engaging in direct and transparent participatory democracy.2. Exercising personal and collective responsibility. We have failed BOTH these pricnciples with this liaison dilemma. We are responsible to deal with it, using our principles. This liaison system, was not direct democracy', it was not transparent', no one recorded the meetings for the rest of the OLA/GA etc. WE as OLA are not exercising responsibility, neither are the persons individually. We must try, we must do. This is about SOLIDARITY to the Principles, to each other, to the Participatory Democracy that I BEG you to give a long chance. It is and will be, your greatest strength. It is the model you must show to all the 99. WE must learn to govern. We must BELEIVE we can learn to govern. SOLIDARITY is a VERB, we ACT in Solidarity and if we do not, we BREAK Solidarity. Again, any further meetings with Police and officials' not RECORDED and DISSEMINATED to OLA/GA, allowing viewing and discussion and DIRECTION is INTENTIONAL break of Solidarity to Principles, and to each other by whoever goes to such a meeting, by whoever does not clearly OBJECT to such breaks of Solidarity, Principles, Transparency, and Participatory Democracy. Thank you. Sorry for wordiness, Solidarity to ALL. PttP Mike
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In favor in principle, as I will try to exipaln. Both the liaison' and GA/OLA, and me included of course, are responsible with the present problems surrounding this. GA is not effectively and clearly' dealing with this situation. The liaison' is not effectively and clearly' dealing with the situation. We, must resolve it .and ending it is clearly, imo, the logical step. End it clearly and decisively, then, if it is consensus, rebuild it correctly. Or I should say better. Movement development is reiterative', you change, fix, experiment, learn, modify as needed. Warning, Warning, Warning. As seriously as I can get your attention, this kind of break' with Principles and Solidarity, can, and usually does become a cancer' in the movement. I was SDS, Students for a Democratic Society, anti war group in the late 60 s, that also used participatory democracy. We were able to learn it slowly, but for the present Occupy, especially Los Angeles, you/we are hitting the ground runnning, repairing a jet while its flying. BUT we MUST adhere and take and OATH to your solidarity with your principles. Or risk the failure and fragmentation of our movement. Please read your first two principles.1. Engaging in direct and transparent participatory democracy.2. Exercising personal and collective responsibility. We have failed BOTH these pricnciples with this liaison dilemma. We are responsible to deal with it, using our principles. This liaison system, was not direct democracy', it was not transparent', no one recorded the meetings for the rest of the OLA/GA etc. WE as OLA are not exercising responsibility, neither are the persons individually. We must try, we must do. This is about SOLIDARITY to the Principles, to each other, to the Participatory Democracy that I BEG you to give a long chance. It is and will be, your greatest strength. It is the model you must show to all the 99. WE must learn to govern. We must BELEIVE we can learn to govern. SOLIDARITY is a VERB, we ACT in Solidarity and if we do not, we BREAK Solidarity. Again, any further meetings with Police and officials' not RECORDED and DISSEMINATED to OLA/GA, allowing viewing and discussion and DIRECTION is INTENTIONAL break of Solidarity to Principles, and to each other by whoever goes to such a meeting, by whoever does not clearly OBJECT to such breaks of Solidarity, Principles, Transparency, and Participatory Democracy. Thank you. Sorry for wordiness, Solidarity to ALL. PttP Mike
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YMMD with that anwser! TX
Starleigh, 2011-06-02 03:27:45
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